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[vehz]

Ok, this may sound a little like a whine, so pass the cheese please.

Wednesday was scheduled for Gruuls. I signed up, place 10, so all good ... I think. Right, Im all sorted on unstable flasks and stuff when I hear Gruul has been called off and we're going to TK instead. Fine, back to the auction house, bagging other flasks, sorted again.

Raid time is 8.00 pm. I get online at 7.40pm. Im in Cosmowrench and am raid-ready. I dont hear anything, just my class leader saying in /g (not personally directed at me, but nevertheless) that if you were signed for gruuls its ok, instant transform to TK.

Its getting after 8pm and finally invites are being spread out. Not to me though. At 8.20 pm I dare asking my classleader if im going to go to TK or not. he responds that it has been decided that there will be only 2 rogues going.

Fine, all good, I can live with the fact that that you cant be on all 25man raids when you've signed up for them. But is it in anyway possible that I can be notified of that? I get dinner in rather quick, I even mention it in /g at 6pm and than none of the raidleaders gives a hint that I might not be going at all.

So much for that, I can live with it, no hard feelings.

Than. Tuesday was a TK attempt as well. Raidtime is 8pm. I am just slightly amazed that people log on at 8.15 pm in freaking IF or further away, ask for a summon as if its deadnormal. In my humble opinion 8pm is 8pm. Pull the first mob at 8 pm. Or am I mistaking terribly and do we get moving towards the raid instance at 8pm? Ive seen that happen when I joined for Gruul last week and Karazhan. We start 30-45 minutes later than planned and last tuesday it ends up that 2 (?) members have to be replaced on the target boss for that night.

Just needed to get it off my chest. /smile on

[Val]

Vehz mate let me explain a few things to you:

1: signing up doesnt mean you have a place in the raid no matter what position you are signed up for, it just means you are saying you are available for that raid.

2: Alot of 25 mans require a certain amount of classes VR for example is a bad boss for rogues which is why one a few went, like I told you you would be going next time in either my place or one of the other rogues places who went this time.

3: What you buy in the auction house is your responsibility, you cant blame anyone but yourself for buying pots etc, i always buy pots just so i have a stock, so I dont know what you are on about there.

4: As for people logging on and getting a place, this also come down to what classes are required for what bosses, I was actually dissapointed that you logged off as soon as i told you that we were only taking a couple of rogues, because we actually needed to add Staafpit because we lacked dps.. also we planned gruuls right after downing VR which you also missed because you logged.

I dont mean this to sound like im having a go, but you need to understand we cant just throw any old class into the raid and hope for the best.

Val

[vehz]

Apperently you didnt understand my post or didnt read well. I clearly stated that Im just not happy not hearing a thing. I dont mind not going because other classes are prefered, I dont mind if theres no spot because other people need to go. I said that. I dont mind buying consumables, Im just amazed that people are getting there bags loaded after 8pm, thats all.

What I do mind is that nobody, i.e. raidleader, doesnt call this out. Im ready when I signed up, im there in time, im there for the entire raid. If something comes up (RL things) I will notify the raidleader in time. Am I asking too much if I want to be informed if Im not needed or on standby?

And yes, I logged right after I heard there was no need for me. What is wrong with that? Do you want me to hang in front of TK untill raid is over, hoping for a drop out? Ive spent 30-40 minutes in front of TK before the raid and I honostly think that is long enough without hearing a thing.

[Val]

Ok fair enough, sorry if I misread but thats the way it seemed to me.

Maybe you want to try being on vent all the time anyway, the rest of us do, we dont just use it for the raids we use it for fun and to have a chat.

Its all well and good saying you werent informed that you werent needed in the raid but its not like you couldnt /w hopegiver the RL and just ask instead of waiting almost an hour for an invite like you did.

[valtiel]

But you are right about people being late and wasting time on the raid which should start shortly after 8pm, I dont like waiting around anymore than anyone else.

Usually if people who have signed up arent on we replace them even if they turn up 10 seconds later than we send an inv for the relplacement.

But just to clear it up, we start sorting the raid at 8pm, it would be ideal for everyone to be ready to go in at 8 but its difficult trying to get 25 people organised and online in time etc..

[vehz]

All good. It was probably disappointment on my side too. After being in a guild that hardly raided at all and now being in one that actually goes to places the 'uncertainty' of a raidspot is something I will have to get used to. It will all work out, glad to see the guild is killing stuff and I am prepared for future kills.

Vehz.